(Part 3) The True Darkness Of Atheism/Agnosticism


As much as I want to be done addressing questions being asked under false pretenses, I find the necessity of making Part 3 and to reveal Satan’s schemes and tactics so that the believer may see how the enemy works through these people.

Below you will see a quote from a person named John Arthur who claims to be an agnostic who keeps on bombarding me with questions, not for the reason of understanding God’s Word or finding out why we Christians believe what we believe but is trying to trap me and convince me that the God of the Bible is false. I say that because he goes to an atheist’s site to parade his so-called victory to convince the atheist community that the Christian community doesn’t have any answers. Satan uses these people even on themselves to continue to keep them blind to the truth and discourage them from seeking God through a believer for the truth.

John Arthur the agnostic says

Hi Spaniard,

You keep deleting my comments over on your blog or refuse to answer many of my questions. You charge me with pride because I ask questions you seem unable to answer, but you dogmatically assert that Christians are Fundamentalists as it is these are the only Christians.

I told you that on rational and empirical grounds that I am an agnostic, but that I choose to believe in a God of compassion, healing-mercy and loving-kindness, but of course, this is not consistent with Fundamentalism. I told you that if God is a Fundamentalist, then I think that a compassionate atheist humanism is much to be preferred, which I doubt that you will publish.

You can keep your views about Fundamentalism, but all you are doing is a good job for your Lord, “Satan”. Repugnant views of God are not likely to attract many people. Even if God probably doesn’t exist, at least compassionate views of God and treating others with compassion is preferable to the oppression of Fundamentalism. The PROBLEM is the BIBLE.

Satan’s emissaries will come to you in a subtle way, depending in the level of maturity you have in Christ, as a person who pretends to believe in the God of the Bible but is scheming for the purpose to find a weakness in your faith, a breach in your wall so to speak, so he can subvert and destroy you.  

Even though John A. claims to believe in a God of compassion and mercy, he has a problem with connecting God and fundamentalist. First let’s define the word fundamentalist to see why he has this problem.

Christian fundamentalism

Christian fundamentalism began in the late 19th and early 20th centuries among British and American Protestants as a reaction to theological liberalism and cultural modernism. Fundamentalists argued that 19th-century modernist theologians had misinterpreted or rejected certain doctrines, especially biblical inerrancy, that they viewed as the fundamentals of the Christian faith. Fundamentalists are almost always described as having a literal interpretation of the Bible.

In keeping with traditional Christian doctrines concerning biblical interpretation, the role Jesus Christ plays in the Bible, and the role of the church in society, fundamentalists usually believe in a core of Christian beliefs that include the historical accuracy of the Bible and all its events as well as the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.-Wikipedia

Often capitalized :  a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teachingMerriam Webster

Fundamentalists are those who believe in the core doctrine of scripture pertaining to the person of Jesus and the inerrancy of scripture which without these two a person cannot get saved because they will believe in a different Jesus and end up rejecting God’s Word. If one does not believe that the Bible is inerrant, then they won’t live by it.

John Arthur rejects putting God and fundamentalist together because that will give you the God of the Bible while he is trying to introduce the god of this world which is Satan. Satan is using John to blind the minds of people so they won’t believe in the right God who manifested Himself in the person of Jesus Christ to prevent them from getting saved as seen in 2 Corinthians 4:4 which says, “The god of this world has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.”

John Arthur says, “You can keep your views about Fundamentalism, but all you are doing is a good job for your Lord, “Satan”. Repugnant views of God

John says, that if you believe in the Jesus that’s revealed in the Word of God and that it’s inerrant (that’s a fundamentalists belief) then you’re believing in Satan. Look how twisted this man’s mind truly is. To have that type of mentality comes from Satan himself, who hates the true Living God of scripture. Satan wants to give you another Jesus that’s foreign to scripture, why? Because that Jesus can’t save you and even the Bible warns us of believing in a different Jesus as seen in Galatians 1:6-9 which says, “6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ to a different gospel, 7 which is not a gospel. But there are some who trouble you and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 Although if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than the one we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so I say now again: If anyone preaches any other gospel to you than the one you have received, let him be accursed.”

At the end of his quote what does John Arthur reveals in his heart? He reveals this, “The PROBLEM is the BIBLE.”

Atheism and agnosticism have this in common since they serve the same god of this world, hatred for the Word of God.

7 Replies to “(Part 3) The True Darkness Of Atheism/Agnosticism”

  1. Hi Spaniard,

    I am inspired by the Quakers who listen to “god” in the silence. In Australia, most of those who attend Quaker meetings are liberal Christians, others are Buddhists, and some are atheists and agnostics.

    In the silence, we experience the beautiful presence. This is the presence of peace and compassion. Most Quakers call this presence the inward light, some also call it the Holy Spirit, others Christ. This Inward Light takes precedence over the bible.

    Most Quakers (at least in Australia and the UK) do not believe in the inerrancy of the bible. Yet Quakers go back to the 17th century as a Christian movement and saw themselves as reviving primitive Christianity. You Fundamentalists only go back to the 1910 so-called Fundamentals.

    Long live Spiritual agnosticism and may the Jesus of compassion touch your heart so that you may be truly “born again” by the Spirit of compassion and healing mercy and not by the dogma of Fundamentalism. Remember, you may be doing the work of “Satan”, if you continue in the theology of Fred Phelps.


    John Arthur

    1. You said-“In the silence, we experience the beautiful presence. This is the presence of peace and compassion. Most Quakers call this presence the inward light, some also call it the Holy Spirit, others Christ. This Inward Light takes precedence over the bible.”

      Your light is deceptive because of your rejection of God’s Word. The Bible will shed some light on the inward light that you are talking about, it is found in 2 Corinthians 11:13-14 which says, “3 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.”

      Your inward light is Satanic since you have rejected God’s Word, God has rejected you according to 1 Samuel 15:23 which says, “For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and defiance is like wickedness and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He has rejected you as king.”

      You are in the same level of witchcraft because you are a rebellious person who doesn’t want to submit to God’s will through His Word.

      What you have to understand John is what Matthew 4:4 says and that is, “But He answered, “It is written: Man must not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.”

      We are to live according to God’s Word which directs your path to His righteousness which you clearly have rejected and are trying to convince me and who knows who else that you are trying to deceive. Shame on you for doing the work of darkness and rejecting the true light that’s only found in Jesus Christ the Living God.

      John 1:1-5
      1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

      John 14:6
      Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

      You John Arthur are a deceiver and a anti-Christ, who wants to bring people away from Jesus and into your darkness. May the Living God have mercy on your victims who falls into your trap but I have expose your deeds of darkness. John you need to repent and believe in the Jesus of the Bible not the man-made Jesus of all those people you love to quote. Salvation is found only in the Jesus of scripture Period.

  2. Well, let me weigh in here. 🙂 First of all Spainard, please don’t think anything I’m saying is meant to be disrespectful or a personal attack. It’s not. I’m just sharing here my own experience and perspective.

    I think this whole issue can present a “sticky wicket.” It seems to me that people can become atheist/agnostic for a variety of reasons. For instance, as a young person, I really struggled with honest doubt, and questions of faith. I deeply questioned why a loving God allowed the innocent to suffer, and I had issues relating to the Scripture as well. For a time, I was agnostic. But, I never had a personal and conscious hatred of God. I just didn’t know, Spainard.

    Others may experience a sense of the absence of God that is trauma based. Perhaps they have been deeply hurt in their lives by the church, and other people who professed Christian faith. This has negatively impacted their response to faith. It’s triggering for them in a bad way to even consider some of these issues, or talk about it. I think intense anger is often connected with deep pain.

    Some may have taken hold of Scripture in such a matter that they felt constantly condemned and miserable. Because of this, it is difficult for them to be open to belief. Others might have been reared in a tradition where trust in Jesus is connected with a certain view of the Bible, such as inerrancy, and they are not able to sustain trust in a loving God, after moving away from this conviction

    . I mean there could be just a myriad of reasons why people are non theists. I’m sure there are plenty of reasons that I haven’t even touched.

    For me, I don’t think we are truly able to judge another person’s heart and mind. Those that appear to be serving the Lord today openly, could be doing great evil behind closed doors. ..We can only see the outward appearance, but it’s God who knows the heart.

    I do want to share that I feel it’s certainly possible for someone to be a Christian believer, and not hold to the total inerrancy of the Scripture. This was a doctrine that did not come into the church until after the reformation. I think that the center of Christian faith is not so much in a certain view of the Bible, but is Jesus Christ, Himself.

    1. Rebecca, Rebecca, the more you explain your views on scripture the more I start to think if you actually read it. I’m not trying to be condescending but the things that’s coming out of your mouth is foreign to scripture, that’s why I don’t understand where you are receiving this information because it’s not from the Bible.

      You said, “I do want to share that I feel it’s certainly possible for someone to be a Christian believer, and not hold to the total inerrancy of the Scripture. This was a doctrine that did not come into the church until after the reformation. I think that the center of Christian faith is not so much in a certain view of the Bible, but is Jesus Christ, Himself.”

      Your statement is very disturbing for a so-called Christian to utter. Inerrancy Rebecca, didn’t come from the Reformation like you are lead to believe but they recognized what the scripture itself proclaims, remember these men are scripture only, so for them to believe in a doctrine comes from the Word of God alone. Saying that, I don’t make a habit to read those men or any other as I don’t want their view, I go straight to the source, God’s Word. Here is inerrancy that’s found in scripture.

      1 Peter 1:23-25
      23 for you have been born again, not from perishable seed, but imperishable, through the word of God which lives and abides forever. 24 For “All flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls away, 25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.” This is the word that was preached to you.

      Psalms 119:89
      Your word, LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens.

      God’s Word is eternal and fixed in heaven because that’s where it came from. Remember Rebecca, for the Word became flesh and lived among us. Jesus who is the expression of God came down to earth to give us His eternal Word which cannot be broken according to John 10:35 which says, “35 If He called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken”

      if the Word of God has errors like you claim that it has than it cannot be trusted. God is perfect and watches over His Word according to Jeremiah 1:12 which says, “12 The Lord said to me, “You have seen correctly, for I watch over My word to accomplish it.”
      God is always watching over His Word to accomplish what is written in it, how can He accomplish what’s in His Word if He can’t keep it from getting corrupted?

      If God can’t keep a simple manuscript from errors than how can we trust that God can deliver us from this twisted generation and take us to heaven?

      Isaiah 55:10-12
      10 For just as rain and snow fall from heaven
      and do not return there
      without saturating the earth
      and making it germinate and sprout,
      and providing seed to sow
      and food to eat,
      11 so My word that comes from My mouth
      will not return to Me empty,
      but it will accomplish what I please
      and will prosper in what I send it to do.”
      12 You will indeed go out with joy
      and be peacefully guided;
      the mountains and the hills will break into singing before you,
      and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.

      God’s Word will do what He sends it out to do.

      Rebecca, I think you should evaluate for trust in Christ because you are separating Jesus and the Bible, that’s an oxymoron, meaning that to detach Jesus with God’s Word is to say, “you don’t need air in a balloon to make it go up.”

      If you separate Jesus from the Bible than what type of Jesus do you have? I will tell you, a Jesus that you will make up in your mind which is a false Jesus that will send you to hell. That’s the truth. Everything in the Bible reveals the true Jesus, if you don’t follow Jesus through scripture you will follow a deceptive Jesus.

      Here are more Bible verses of inerrancy:

      Matthew 24:35
      Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

      Psalm 12:6
      6 And the words of the Lord are flawless,
      like silver purified in a crucible,
      like gold refined seven times.

      Psalm 119:160
      The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.

      Psalm 18:30
      30 As for God, his way is perfect:
      The Lord’s word is flawless;
      he shields all who take refuge in him.

      Psalm 19:7
      7 The law of the Lord is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy, making wise the simple.

      1. Hi, Spainard, I have a high view of Scripture, and feel that it does contain and reflect God’s Word to us. But, I think it can also contain the opinions and perceptions of men, as well. I would just not interpret all of the references to” word” in the verses you have shared to necessarily correlate to the Bible as a whole.

        Christians have disagreed about this very topic through the centuries. For instance, Martin Luther referred to James as an “epistle of straw.” The book of Revelation was especially in dispute to be included into the canon of the New Testament.

        My faith in Jesus Christ is just not based in a certain view of the Bible, let alone in whether the Scripture is inerrant, but also in the historic witness of the church coming down from the apostles, and the early church fathers. I mean people were following Jesus Christ, and calling Him Lord before a single book of the New Testament was ever penned.

        I don’t feel, either, that we should just fabricate an image of Jesus from our own mind. I think there is a danger in “cherry picking” the Scripture to make it mean, whatever.. This is equally wrong to my thinking. The love of Christ is my hermaneutic (lens) in how I would personally receive and interpret selected Bible verses. Jesus is God’s last and final Word to us. I also think we should study, pray, consider what the theologians are saying, and think about the corporate witness of the church, those kind of things in coming to a right interpretation of the Scripture. I don’t think God meant for us to be “lone ranger” kind of Christians.

        Anyway, Spainard, sharing a lot of thoughts here. I know we are certainly not coming from the same kind of place in everything. But, if we can agree that Jesus is Lord, that’s the most important thing. My unity with other Christian believers is based in Him, not in total agreement concerning every doctrine. We can trust that He who began a good work in us will complete it. …

        Probably will have to agree to disagree for now, though. 🙂 Give you the last word in all of this. Blessings.

        Love in Christ,

        1. Thank you for your comments Rebecca, I would have to say that I disagree with you 100% in view of scripture which is the foundation of Christianity. Cults form because they stray from the Bible. I will end our discussion on that note. Thanks for stopping by, may the Lord reveal Truth to you.

  3. “I think that the center of Christian faith is not so much in a certain view of the Bible, but is Jesus Christ, Himself.”

    The Bible happens to be Christ-centered, a complete revelation of who God is. Your belief of the possibility for someone to truly be born again and be ignorant of what’s written in Scipture is certainly possible. I was there myself. However, picking and choosing which parts of the Bible to believe is a recipe for apostasy.

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